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Thank You, Mr chairman I've got some additional questions for you Mr Canterbury in 2017 there was a message to FOP members in which you urged them to speak out in support of senator General Jeff Sessions announcement that the federal civil asset forfeiture program would be expanded and as I recall what while touting the virtues of the equitable sharing program and by the way the equitable sharing program here refers to something I've long opposed something that I had opposed at the time and four years before then equitable sharing in the civil asset forfeiture context refers to the mechanism by which some state local law enforcement agencies in many cases otherwise hindered by more aggressive and restrictive laws governing civil asset forfeiture will turn to federal law enforcement officials and ask for their help getting the federal law enforcement officers involved in seizing civilly assets and then in return for this cooperation they will both get a share of the proceeds of this sometimes this is used to fund law enforcement operations and for reasons that I think our parent to anyone who examines it carefully this is a problem that's rife with opportunities for abuse because all of a sudden the presumptions that ordinarily would apply in the criminal context are flipped somebody's property gets seized perhaps in order to fund a government agency or otherwise, and it's then up to them to prove that they didn't do anything wrong, so I've long signaled that I've got concerns with this and at the time you touted the program and the federal government's expanded use of it you said quote this program has a long history in law enforcement of success and these elected chicken little need to hear from us that the sky is not falling close quote did you in fact say that Mr Canterbury yes sir I did and do you regard the concerns of members of Congress including myself with regard to the equity hearing program is frivolous no sir there were a number of advocacy groups that were accusing law enforcement of being thief's at that time and that's who we directed those comments at okay, so you were not in fact accusing this reference which paints with a pretty broad brush to chicken little extended only to those who specifically used the word thief the best of my recollection senator that's that's the was the context at that time I testified before this very committee in support of the civil asset forfeiture laws that Senator session then senator sessions had written but one of the most important parts of my testimony was that we believed that the adjudication process needed to be very Swift and very quick that the citizens that had assets that were seized that there was a change in the adjudication do you agree that equitable sharing may create a perverse incentive for state and local law enforcement agencies to run roughshod over the rights of individual citizens and that this risk merits re-evaluation of the program I believe any ethical police officer...
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